Oui oui les enfants loin de moi de mettre de l'huile qui pique sur la pizza.

Et puis moi je change aussi, je prends pas toujours jambon/fromage, des fois chorizo/merguez .

Allez va je pardonne ceux qui on un galaxy

lolpops : Aigri, arf non je suis encore jeune

Mes deux reflex sont des Pentax, le prochain en sera également un.

Pour ce qui est du FF, je me pose souvent la question suivante:
Qu'est-ce qui motive de passer au FF?

Est-ce le plus grand nombre de photosites, la plus grande taille de photosites, la visée plus confortable ou autre chose?

J'ai enfin trouvé une bonne motivation pour du FF : les optiques grand angle sont plus faciles à fabriquer, de meilleure qualité et plus lumineuses pour un encombrement pas plus gros qu'en APS-C. Et ce jusqu'aux focales standard, quand on regarde la différence d'encombrement entre un 50/1.4 et un 35/1.4... Un copain a un Sigma 17-35/2.8-4 pas plus gros que mon 10-20/4-5.6, et à priori pas moins bon. Et je commence à ressentir le besoin d'un UGA lumineux... Bref, d'ici que le FF sorte, et que son prix baisse à la sortie d'un successeur, j'aurais peut-être suffisamment économisé !

Le 6d ne fait l’unanimité chez les Canonistes ? De toutes façons ils sont jamais contents! Ils veulent toujours mieux! Moi c'est clair que ce serait mon 2eme boîtier... Je suis un ancien Pentaxiste... Quand t'as shooté un peu en ff c'est très dur de revenir en arrière, pdc différente (structure à l'image) contraste, luminosité, tout est vraiment mieux...

Qu'est-ce qu'il en dit Pixel ?

lolpops a écrit:

Qu'est-ce qu'il en dit Pixel ?

Pixel dit que depuis une semaine il a le merveilleux
FF D800 de Nikon et s'éclate, et lorsque Pentax en sortira un FF , il va l'acheter,
mais pour le moment avec ce D800 l'attente sera moins longue...

PS:
et ne vous en faites pas j'ai encore tout mon équipement Pentax qui me sert aussi
car j'ai beaucoup de difficulté à vendre, (jamais rien vendu en 35 ans) mais par contre aucune difficulté à acheter LOL

Pixel a écrit:

PS:
et ne vous en faites pas j'ai encore tout mon équipement Pentax qui me sert aussi
car j'ai beaucoup de difficulté à vendre, (jamais rien vendu en 35 ans) mais par contre aucune difficulté à acheter LOL

.... mais tu es millionnaire .... tu nous fais baver avec tout ton matériel Pentax et ce D800

Je viens de visionner l'interview par Pentaxforums de André Dierickx, directeur de Pentax Ricoh Imaging Europe, Mr. Shigeru Wakashiro, chef de produit de Pentax Ricoh Imaging Japan, et Mr. Genichiro Takaoka, qui fait également partie de la division produit et boîtiers.

Vous pouvez la visionner (en VO) chez Pentaxforums


Je pense que le FF Pentax n'est pas pour 2012, cependant il est très probable qu'on le verra en 2013. Les têtes pensantes de Ricoh-Pentax examinent la compatibilité entre les objectifs existants et un futur 24x36.
Cela signifie qu'en plus de développer un 24x36, ils vont développer de nouveaux objectifs pour remplacer les objectifs qui ne sont pas compatibles FF.

Curieusement, ils n'ont pas l'air de vouloir moderniser les objectifs FF qui ne sont plus au catalogue. Il est peut-être plus facile de partir sur de nouvelles bases que de vouloir adapter un objectif manuel parfois difficilement compatible avec les contraintes de l'AF (déplacement de lourds groupes de lentilles, longue course de mise au point...).

Merci pour le lien tryphon4

Voir un FF Pentax en 2013 (c'est l'année prochaine pour rappel ) j'espère me tromper mais je n'y crois pas beaucoup étant donné que "ça n'est pas leur priorité"...

Et comme tu dis, il faut en plus du boitier sortir ne nouveaux objectifs, ça fait du taf tout de même

2013 on s'en fout, la fin du monde est prévue avant.

Extrait de Dpreview:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50523959




je ne traduirai pas, car beaucoup ici m'ont dit lire l'anglais très facilement
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Happy holiday guys.

No nit picking on translation please - I don't do this for a living I'll be more than happy to clarify if something doesn't make sense though - I admit I didn't proof read.

I'll keep my comments to myself for now so I don't spoil anything

Enjoy!

Has the development of a full-frame camera started?

The development of a full-frame camera has been going on, however whether it becomes a product is up to marketing. The important thing is what Pentax can do in the full-frame market. Pentax has to clearly be able to differentiate from what Nikon, Canon and Sony are doing. We also have to take into consideration what the consumers are expecting, and see how that manifests itself into a product. Development takes time. Development is moving including interchangeable lenses.

In our previous interview, you implied perhaps that for a full-frame camera, mirror-less is better to avoid mirror-shock. What are you thinking about this topic now?

Currently Pentax has both SLR and mirror-less type APS-C cameras. Comparing those two and the opinions of our customers, mirror-less cameras are used more as "light-weight" cameras. SLRs on the other hand, are more often used by hobby photographers - the people who want to create imagery. I think perhaps our current customers fall into these two categories. We can create cameras with cutting-edge design with mirror-less cameras, and of course smaller with the omission of a mirror. We can also produce them cheaper. Up until last year, there was a possibility to create a mirror-less full-frame camera. Looking at all the tradeoffs now, I personally think "with mirror" is the priority we are thinking of for full-frame cameras. It is important to create products with new value propositions, however it perhaps won't be accepted in the market if that doesn't meet usability and needs of the customer. I think mirror-less is more appropriate for medium format cameras than full-frame from a mirror-shock reduction standpoint.

Both SLR and mirror-less have pros and cons. One of those things is the variety and usability of the lenses. SLRs have the benefit of using existing lenses and is easier to use with long-range lenses.

That is true. If we do a mirror-less, we have to debate whether to go with a new mount or use the current K-mount. If we go mirror-less, we mind as well use a new mount and make the flange back shorter as well as make the mount a little larger for brighter lenses. Otherwise there is no reason to go mirror-less.

Aside from the debate between SLR or mirror-less, even for example for an SLR, it is still a difficult decision whether to go with a new mount or continue with the K-mount.

That is the big debate. Pentax is known for its "mad" legacy compatibility since we haven't changed mounts in a long time. This has been one of the reasons Pentax customers trust and choose us. It would require quite the determination to cut the tie and go with a new mount.

But to go with a new mount will also allow new possibilities - things that weren't possible before.

If we were to go with a new mount, we have to think not only few years ahead, but 10, 15 years ahead and decide what we want to do with a new mount. It will be difficult to drop the K-mount but we will have that discussion and make the decision carefully.

There are very strong competitors already in the full-frame market. You would have to do something significant to jump into the competition. As for built in sensor-shift stabilization, is it achievable with full-frame sensors?

There is very good potential.

You removed the low-pass filter from the K-5lls. Do you think future cameras will have no low-pass filters?

That maybe difficult. Even with the K-5lls, it is a specific model without the low-pass filter. We have to be able to explain to the consumers to use it with the understanding the filter is not there.

Removing the low-pass filter creates potential issue with moiré. It should be possible to resolve this in the future with in-camera post processing filtering.

That is true. Resolution is definitely higher without the low-pass filter. We currently have no way to solve the moiré issue, but we are researching in-camera post processing.

In general, what do you think is attractive about mirror-less cameras?

We have 2 mirror-less cameras in the market - K-01 and Q10. I think the obvious benefits are the flexibility in design and lower cost. I think the best part of it is the ability to casually photograph compared to a SLR. I think it's great for lightweight everyday snapshots.

But if that's the case, do you need the ability to change lenses? Can't you just use a compact camera?

Both mirror-less and compacts are great for an everyday snippet, but the ability to change lenses allows for a wider range of shots and as a better tool to create everyday snippets.

So you are saying one of the things that is attractive about mirror-less cameras is the ability to change lenses?

By changing lenses, you can use a prime lens to get exceptional image quality or you can use a zoom lens for all around flexibility. It allows for a wider range use.

Then what do you think is attractive about SLRs?

I'm one of the people who personally don't like EVFs. I think the biggest benefit of an SLR is the fact that you can see exactly what is in front of you in a 100% viewfinder and focus on how you want to capture the scene. The user can focus on the excitement of deciding the best lens to use, shutter speed, f-stop, and exposure compensation to get the exact image the user has in mind to capture.

So you prefer a more orthodox SLR with an optical viewfinder over a new kind of SLR with a translucent mirror or EVF?

Yes. There is merit to translucent mirrors, for example continuous shooting speed. However, there is a thin film in front of the light that goes to the sensor, and of course it's going to bounce some of the light. There is no way it doesn't affect image quality. So, if I had to choose between continuous shooting speed and image quality, I personally want to choose the image quality.

Before when we were talking about full-frame SLRs, I thought maybe a translucent mirror plus EVF. That won't happen from your perspective?

For an SLR, while I'm around that probably won't happen. We do have that technology from the 6x7 days and even have mock-ups. As I just mentioned translucent mirrors will affect image quality. We can correct the light-loss from the translucent mirror post-process within the camera, but we prefer not to alter the image.

So you are saying, as long as you are at Pentax, that won't happen? (laughter)

No, I'm not making that big of a statement, but I think the possibility is zero.

Changing subjects, how was 2012 for Pentax?

This year we released 2 compact cameras, 4 lens interchangeable cameras, and 5 to 6 lenses. I think we had a very productive year from an SLR type camera standpoint - both from number of products and sales.

As for Ricoh branded cameras, you haven't released a new model since the company merger. Are you also overseeing the development of the Ricoh branded cameras?

Corporate structure-wise they are part of the same development group. The development team for Ricoh branded cameras is located in Shinyokohama. Of course the development of new products are in progress. There are a lot of great engineers in Shinyokohama and they are working with strong motivation to keep the Ricoh brand going. We will release a new camera in 2013. I believe it is a very Ricoh camera that our core Ricoh users will appreciate.

So you are saying the new camera is a different line of products from the existing GR Digital and GXR lineup?

No comment (laughter)

But we can expect the possibility a new camera Ricoh core users will love?

It's not a possibility. It will launch.

So we can have high expectation with that camera?

Yes, we are giving it our all on this one.

There was a little absence from Ricoh branded cameras, but we can expect a come back?

Yes, we will come back strong. For our customers who have been waiting for a Ricoh branded camera, please stay tuned.

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Donc il semble que l'idée du reflex sans remontée du miroir soit abandonnée.
Je me demande qui est la personne interviewée, pour info l'interview originale est ici:

On dirait qu'on avance dans le bon sens.... C'est bien !

Bon ben ça nous donne pas de délai.... et visiblement le changement de monture est en question.....

je sais pas vraiment si c'est des bonnes nouvelles

si jamais, il oserait changer de monture,
alors ça signerait leur arrêt de mort

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Pentax is known for its "mad" legacy compatibility since we haven't changed mounts in a long time. This has been one of the reasons Pentax customers trust and choose us. It would require quite the determination to cut the tie and go with a new mount.

Ils ont bien dû s'apercevoir que s'ils créent une nouvelle monture incompatible avec la monture K, ils ont toute la gamme d'optiques à recréer de zéro, ça représente un travail énorme et surtout des investissements colossaux, sans compter la perte d'une bonne partie de leur clientèle.
Je pense que les chances sont faibles pour qu'ils fassent ça, ça reviendrait à se tirer une balle dans le pied.

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But to go with a new mount will also allow new possibilities - things that weren't possible before.

Les avantages supposés d'une nouvelle monture "offrant de nouvelles possibilités" restent à déterminer, si c'est juste pour diminuer le tirage optique et pouvoir faire des grand-angle encore plus compacts le jeu en vaut-il la chandelle?

tryphon4 a écrit:

Donc il semble que l'idée du reflex sans remontée du miroir soit abandonnée.
Je me demande qui est la personne interviewée, pour info l'interview originale est ici:

ce gars a l'air serieux

ils ont toujours l'air sérieux chez Ricoh/Pentax

Ce sont deux bonnes nouvelles, Tokina fabrique de bons objectifs dont certains ne sont pas disponibles en version Pentax.
Le FF ne m'intéresse pas plus que ça pour le moment, je commencerai à économiser quand le premier FF Pentax sortira mais certains ici sont impatients!

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Le FF ne m'intéresse pas plus que ça pour le moment, je commencerai à économiser quand le premier FF Pentax sortira mais certains ici sont impatients!

attend d'en essayer un, tu vas changer d'idée

C'est ce qui m'a fait passer chez Canon...

moi j'en ai un, mais je reste chez Pentax

Depuis le temps qu'on l'attends celui là, le jour ou il sort deviendra fête nationnale au Japon !!

Pixel a écrit:

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Le FF ne m'intéresse pas plus que ça pour le moment, je commencerai à économiser quand le premier FF Pentax sortira mais certains ici sont impatients!

attend d'en essayer un, tu vas changer d'idée

Je n'ai pas laissé la marque Pentax de guetté de coeur ..... par contre, je ne regrette pas du tout d'être passé au FF .... bien au contraire